Neo-Nazi group rallies in Riverside as hundreds of counter-demonstrators protest

Police stood between the two sides for most of the three-hour demonstration as the opposing groups hurled insults and slurs - and the occasional bottle of water - at each other.

Saturday, October 24, 2009

READER COMMENTS

Comment by: b_reynaldo Posted: October 25, 2009, 9:46 am

The neo-nazis and brown berets/Aztlan types are two sides of the same coin. If they sat down and talked with each other, they would actually find a lot in common — belief in the idea of racial supremacy and hatred of Jews.

Comment by: Jimi Posted: October 25, 2009, 9:55 am

Just another skimish in the new american civil war to come. Buy ammo, be ready. The police will not protect anyone. You are on your own.
Be prepared.

Comment by: levotb Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:49 am

What the writer calls “counter-protesters” were the racist, seditious and militant Brown Berets (the Latino version of the Black Panthers) along with assorted Communists, leftists and reconquistas.

The writer shows his hand when he uses p.c. terms like “undocumented immigrants” which is a buzz phrase for illegal aliens. The writer may or may not be aware that there are only three kinds of people in the U.S.:

1) Citizens
2) Legal aliens (with up-to-date green cards, visas, etc.)
3) Illegal aliens (Border jumpers, visa overstayers, etc.)

Comment by: Manny Blanco Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:51 am

These Nazi groups should not be allowed to meet and exist. They simply spread hate and mayhem. They hurt innocent people and cowardly attack. These Nazis that protested in Riversdie knew that Jewish People would not be there to counter protest because of the Sabbath. These people belong in jail where they can get the same treatment they give to their innocent victims.

Comment by: Dave Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:59 am

Two racists groups fighting each other…should have let them finish the fight.

Comment by: Victor Posted: October 25, 2009, 11:25 am

I’m against hatred toward anyone because of my Christian faith, but I also don’t think we should tolerate illegal immigrants. We have legal ways to immigrate and people are doing it the right way so we should not accomodate the illegals with an amnesty. It hurts the country in so many ways to have 12 to 20 million people disrespect our rule of law. Any amnesty will just increase the number of illegals for the next one. The answer is attrition through enforcement. People will go home when they can’t get jobs or welfare.

Comment by: Primedirective Posted: October 25, 2009, 12:15 pm

We must accept that we as a species have collectively chosen a path void of culture, values, dignity or an objective with promise of a frontier to explore and navigate. It’s time to see that this road we have taken, based on past decisions, conclusions, prejudices, dispositions and data present at the time have lead us to a dark dead end. In this dark dead end, the power hungry egoistic selfish few, filled with hate and greed are being brought to light and justice. Given the current path, easier it is to predict doom, for it is visible at a distance and makes you feel like you’ve done your part. If you’re out there, the time has come to steer this vessel towards the horizon. We must look in the mirror objectively and ask; what have I done for humanity that will benefit all mankind regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual preference or cultural heritage without interest in personal gain, recognition or profit? What have you done for humanity today? Science fiction has already suggested alternate paths as well as alternate endings. What path do you suggest? Where do we go from here? Is there a place or path where we can all equally prosper and live long? Be it the vast oceans or endless space, a destination we must have and only collectively will we arrive.

Comment by: Mary Posted: October 25, 2009, 2:37 pm

This problem will continue to increase because of the lack of enforcement by the corrupt federal government and greedy employers that these ILLEGAL ALIENS bow to. I blame no one except them and this is just the beginning of what’s to come. Especially when the shamnesty talks begin. We are a nation of laws AND culture, but when a VIOLENT, RACISTS, AND THIEVING culture is allowed to break our laws at will, something WILL break. Get ready people, its coming.

Comment by: bartlebee Posted: October 25, 2009, 2:50 pm

Manny Blanco said:
“These Nazi groups should not be allowed to meet and exist. They simply spread hate and mayhem. They hurt innocent people and cowardly attack.”
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These Brown Beret groups should not be allowed to meet and exist. They simply spread hate and mayhem. They hurt innocent people and cowardly attack.

Comment by: Bobby Posted: October 25, 2009, 6:34 pm

I wrote two blogs explaining how Americans don’t get it, and how treacherous the Main Stream Media is. They weren’t printed. Why is that? Do you support those here illegally like, for example Channel Two in California does? Yesterday they focused on the “nazis”, but hadn’t a word to say about the Brown Beret, who have shown up at every large protest by Americans and usually “beat up” physically attacked, older American citizens. Shame on Channel two news, and shame on all of the cowards in the various media who do nothing but support illegal immigration against the American citizenry.

Comment by: Bobby Posted: October 25, 2009, 6:38 pm

Mary, as I said, there are millions of clueless Americans of all stripes, who simply don’t understand what Mexico’s influence is doing to this country. If they did understand it, they would create mayhem and vote out Republicans, Democrats, Green Party candidates, liberatarians, ANYONE AND ANY POLITICAL PARTY THAT USES THE DECENCY AND HONOR OF HARDWORKING AMERICANS TO PAY FOR MEXICO’S FAILED STATE.

Comment by: Diane Posted: October 25, 2009, 7:54 pm

I agree 100% with bartlebee!

Both the Nazis and the Brown Beret are WELL KNOWN hate groups.

Comment by: Minuteman Dave. Posted: October 25, 2009, 8:12 pm

Well, look who threw the first punch! The mexican. And we are suppose to embrace THAT culture? Give THEM amnesty? It’s just another America hating latino gang! Take jobs, send DOLLARS to mexico! Hate Gringo’s.
Typical.

Comment by: Obbop Posted: October 25, 2009, 9:35 pm

The USA elite class WANTS millions of illegals since their presence assists the elite’s class war.

Divide and conquer!!!

Keep the masses bickering amongst themselves and divert their attention from a harder-to-perceive greater threat of an elite class garnering evermore wealth and power while steadily shoving more Americans into a 2nd-world life-style.

Note the invaders and their backwards culture. Note the countries and governments of the countries that the invader’s culture created. Typically 2nd-world or less cesspools with an entrenched powerful extremely wealthy elite class at the top.

Our elites note those other elites and rub their greedy hands.

Observe how at least a small percentage of USA citizens who shed at least part of their brainwashing and cared enough to noticed that we ARE in the throes of class warfare are trying to alert others of what is going on so as to muster the citizenry to fight back.

Then notice how the invading horde that seldom assimilate are clan-oriented and ignore higher-level politics.

Our USA elites WANT those types of people living in the USA!!!!

Spitting out babies endlessly the invaders are the majority in some areas already and will eventually become a majority within the USA.

America’s working-poor citizens are especially harmed by the millions of invaders who drive down wages and cause rents to rise.

Those renting houses tend to be local elites with local power and they want high rents. Thus, at the federal level, the state and local levels, the BIG and little elites and the elites in-between profit from the invasion.

After decades of observing real life, often immersed within the invading barbaric horde and, at times, a minority by being an Anglo and a minority by being a USA citizen along with much reading and self-research I am convinced the USA is in the throes of class war.

I felt so good when my often-disagreed-with opinion was backed by one who many elites worship for one reason… he can amass immense wealth;

“There’s class warfare, all right,” Mr. Buffett said, “but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

Warren Buffet the billionaire, virtually worshiped by so many for one ability, to make money.

Note, though, that it is the efforts of others actually performing tasks that create the wealth.

Remove the workers and there is NO wealth to skim off and amass in the hands of the few.

America’s elite class is our ultimate enemy.

Until we force the elites to commence doing what must be done to securely seal the border and oust the MILLIONS of illegals the invasion will continue, unrelenting, until the invaders and their culture are the majority and the ruling elite class has forced the majority of citizens into a 2nd-world or lower life-style.

It is war. Class war.

And, We, the People, are losing.

Comment by: citygirl Posted: October 25, 2009, 9:41 pm

The Brown Berets are just like the Nazis, but because they classify themselves as “brown” they get a pass while the whites do not. Evil people come in all colors.

Comment by: Bobby Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:08 pm

Minuteman Dave, it blows me away, the way the media treats Americans vs. Mexican radicals. Yeah, this time it was some weirdo so called neo-nazi groups doing the protesting and the Brown Berets became radical. Yet the Main Stream Media, focused only on the other side. Not a word about the violence they knew that the Brown Beret punks started. My point is, whether it’s the neo-nazi weirdos, doing the peacefull protesting or regular American citizens concerned about all of the issues that illegal immigration creates, BOTH OF THEM ARE THROWN IN THE SAME GROUP, BY THE AMERICAN CITIZEN HATING MAIN STREAM MEDIA. It’s obvious to anyone who listens to the alphabet channels.

Comment by: Bobby Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:09 pm

Last comment if they will print it. Just look at the title of the above article. That says it all. Neo Nazis vs. the nice counter demonstraters. B.S.

Comment by: george Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:12 pm

The Brown Berets are a reactionary hate group–just like the Black Panthers. In other words if you kick a dog enough times don’t be surprised if it bites back.
White hate started it…

Comment by: lance sjogren Posted: October 25, 2009, 10:32 pm

As people have said, the Brown Supremacists and the White Supremacists are fundamentally the same.

Although, I would say there is one slight difference.

Hate groups of all kinds claim their evil is actually serving some good.

The new twist is that the leftist hate groups claim that the good their hate is serving is the fight against hate itself!

How’s that for Orwellianism?

Comment by: Larry Posted: October 26, 2009, 12:20 am

HELP STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION…….MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD: http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

WHAT IS NUMBERSUSA ALL ABOUT
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/about-us.html

Comment by: max Posted: October 26, 2009, 9:25 am

The only difference between this clash and most other peaceful-rallies-turned-fistfights is that some of the far Left group apparently told police who they were. Most of the time, they just mingle into the crowd and start picking fights with the police so that police will come out looking like the aggressors.

I don’t like the NSM any more than anyone else, but the fact that the “peaceful” counter-protesters, if there were any, apparently saw fit to join forces with the Leftist and Communist radicals is very sad. That just means there is no voice for the middle-ground, which is where the overwhelming majority of the public sits.

Comment by: CitizenCane Posted: October 26, 2009, 9:37 am

Don’t you find it puzzling this new organization only targets the Nazi racists?

Comment by: Mexican Posted: October 26, 2009, 10:16 am

It’s funny how the European people are so against illegal immigrants when they themselves are the biggest “wetbacks” possible. They had to cross a huge body of water to get here and invaded the poeple of this land they call America with violence and hatred. The Indian and Mexican people are the true poeple of America. The government knows it and even pays the Indians to this day. If you disagree with me, open up a history book. No hatred here, just tired of the whining.

Comment by: hubert Posted: October 26, 2009, 10:45 am

everyone is accusing the nazis of being violent etc. if you read the story and pay attention, you will see that the nazis are not the ones that started or initiated the fighting. read below and tell me who you think started the fighting?

PROOF:

A small group of neo-Nazis dressed in dark clothing emerged from a side street and made its way to a spot behind some temporary barricades. They began raising their hands in a Nazi salute.

ALMOST IMMEDIATELY SOME OF THE COUNTER DEMONSTRATORS RUSHED ACROSS THE STREET AND CONFRONTED THE NAZI GROUP, sending officers scurrying to keep the two groups separated.

Within moments, the screaming, name-calling and finger-pointing escalated and a temporary barricade that separated the two sides was knocked down.

The fighting started.

who started it

WHITES?

MEXICANS?

one more question, why is everyone so pissed off that someone that is here illegally got sent home?

Comment by: Val Posted: October 26, 2009, 10:58 am

There are so many undeclared racists in riverside county. A violent response to Nazis doesn’t mean counter-protesters hate white people. All of you minute men and those calling counter-protesters racists, are blinded by their own racism. Shame on the posters here that are essentially supporting the Nazis. We shall overcome, you shall be overwhelmed, you blind, racist, xenophobic slime reveling in your political spin. You have lost your 1950’s America. Keep crying in your gas station coffee, keep reminding Jesus he owes you an SUV. Keep your boot-heals on the necks of all immigrants while you remind yourself: it’s not your fault, blame minorities. You have a white-birth right and will remain on the top of the social totem pole, as long as you have anything to do with it.

Comment by: Val Posted: October 26, 2009, 11:09 am

Many people in riverside county, as shown in most of these posts, are undeclared racists. A good rule of thumb: Nazis are wrong. Minuteman Dave: We shal overcome, you shall be overwhelmed. Keep crying in your gas station coffee, keep reminding Jesus that he owes you an SUV. All of you closeted racist xenophobic anxiety ridden of the delusional American birth-right ilk, need only to realize, there is no social totem pole. You may be on top, but not for long. Your ideals do not reflect American values and your oppressive mentality, like slavery, will cease to exist.

Comment by: Bobby Posted: October 26, 2009, 11:57 am

Val, and Mexican and thousands of bloggers like them are the proof for what is in store for honest, hardworking, lawabiding, and loyal American citizens. “We shall overcome, you shall be overwhelemed”. “your oppressive mentality like slavery will cease to exist.” Are you Americans thinking about this? Can you feel the hate, discontent, and intransigence of people like Val and Mexican? They don’t care about how much tax Americans pay to serve the failed state of Mexico, BECAUSE THEY ARE MEXICAN NATIONALISTS AT HEART. Read their posts again. Open your minds.

Comment by: Bobby Posted: October 26, 2009, 12:01 pm

Notice one more thing about Mr”s. reconquista Val, and Mexican. They always talk about the “truth” about Jesus, and about religion. All phonies I have ever known do that. But their posts belie any interest in the “truth”, Jesus, or any love or respect of the U.S. Mexico is close in their hearts. When will Americans get it with these people?

Comment by: American Posted: October 26, 2009, 2:10 pm

“They started it”

Our children are as confused as ever about life in general and your fighting over colors. Your 12 year old daughter thinks she’s a lesbian. Your 15 year old son is a father of 2.

Look at Myspace and Facebook. I bet your kids are on it. You know, the place where its cool to “whore yourself”. Look it up. Yet, nobody knows why.

You both know where you were wrong. The biggest fight will be who can admit to themselves they were wrong. This hasn’t been about race in almost 20 years. This has evolved into the protection of your grandfathers’ egos. It has become about the desire of attention.

I’m proud of all Americans and their organization but we need your focus over here, now.

The IE is a “new country”. It’s a modern day “Gold Rush” to claim property and start business. The wise action would be on building a community worth living in before the money becomes the “empire” and consumes you.

Go back to school. Understand what this next generation is seeing and help us keep it good.

If you don’t like the culture then YOU can leave, but your missing out.

Your not fighting any causes. Your uniforms don’t make you verified. I don’t care what color you are and you shouldn’t care about mine. Immigration is not the issue.

Be as tough as you act and do what you know your afraid of. I dare you to co-exist.

The bottom line is. All of you are unprepared and scared.

Riverside County has alot of growing up to do. Money has already begun to flow into this community and unless you are prepared to build off of it, it will overwhelm you.

One good thing we can take from this.

“As long as people don’t hurt each other, they can say what they want,”

At least free speech is still alive. I respect anybody’s opinion. There can be sense made of Socialists, Supremacists and all other organizations of faith and creed. We’re all looking for a sense of security in the end.

It’s great that you all care about America enough to do something! That’s half the battle. Now, your enemy is in front of you. Let’s make sure that we, as the human race, aren’t defeated by it.

Survive, then we can argue about intangibles.

Sorry, for using big words.

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I’m not originally from the IE, but I went to school here. I spent most of my life in the IE and I’m so proud of what we’ve achieved here.

I wish you the best, Inland Empire.

Comment by: blyndmassiah Posted: October 26, 2009, 4:17 pm

I think the only people who have the right to protest against immigration. should be the Native Americans, and the disenfranchised mexicans,
but as far as I know, the Indians have been protesting european invaders for years, and as mentioned by another blogger
the U.S is still paying the indians to this day
and the Asians,Blacks, or other ethnic groups are not the ones complaining, so why are whites…..

Comment by: The Redskin Redneck Posted: October 26, 2009, 7:16 pm

blyndmassiah, blind you truly are. The European American who’s ancestors built the United States in its present form, you know, the one that makes ninety percent of the world want to come here, ARE the people who have a right to demonstrate. The U.S. is paying Indians because of the great morality of the European Americans today. Remember, they did nothing to the people you mention, unless you want to believe in the guilt you share for what YOUR, ancestors did to others. RIGHT BRO? Afterall, various Indian tribes stronger than others killed the weaker, didn’t they. The Aztecs killed weaker Indians and cruelly sacrificed them on their bloody altars, didn’t they Bro? Yet, yet, of all the people who have paid those their ancestors wronged, only European Americans have done so. How about that? You see Mr. Massiah, your view of humanity and those you deem somehow exclusively guilty for being human, falls somewhat short, doesn’t it bro?

Comment by: Mexican Posted: October 26, 2009, 7:50 pm

That’s ridiculous for you to say anything about the Indian sacrifices redskin redneck because it works both ways. The European’s ran from Europe because of your lack of freedom. Your own kings and people would hang you if your religion was any different. European’s fled there country for freedom and peace to a land that was not there’s. Now Mexican’s flee there land for a chance at a better life for there families and there willing to work hard for it. They would do it legally if they had the money. They are desperately trying to give there families a better life just like the European’s were.

Comment by: The Redskin Redneck Posted: October 26, 2009, 7:56 pm

Mexican, the difference is, and we must admit this, Europeans built this nation in its present form with its laws and everything else. You or I can’t go to Mexico and start demanding things out of thin air, and cause the trouble these Brown Beret de Aztlan do. Even their name is arrogant. I have seen these clowns up close and they are a joke. I would drive them to Mexico myself, if I could.

Comment by: Mexican Posted: October 26, 2009, 8:15 pm

I don’t know much about the brown berets, I admit. I am a young American born Mexican who is just tired of of people picking on the immigrants who are willing to work hard for a better life. I also am not sure that this nation today is better than living in harmony with mother nature as it was before the European’s came. We have pollution, global warming, etc., etc., etc., everyone knows the problems.

Comment by: The Redskin Redneck Posted: October 26, 2009, 8:33 pm

Mexican, that’s a profound post. I too have been an environmentalist my whole life. I picke up trash at the beach, cans, bottles, etc. There are Americans of all stripes that totally support you on your concern about the environment. I have noticed that as far as the Democratic Party goes on the environment,they as well as the Republicans are a total joke. Clinton and Gore, for example had more old growth forests destroyed than every administration before them. We have so many hypocrits in this nation, that it’s sick. Thanks for your concern on what is important. Without the earth producing for us, we are all doomed.

Comment by: Mexican Posted: October 26, 2009, 8:39 pm

One other thing. Were it not for the black slaves that were brought here forcefully from there country to work for nothing or the immigrants that worked for almost nothing. This nation that “Europeans built” might not be as prosperous as you might think.

Comment by: Mexican Posted: October 26, 2009, 8:42 pm

Redskin Redneck I am surprised to say I agree with you on your last post.

Comment by: The Redskin Redneck Posted: October 27, 2009, 12:14 am

I have absolutely nothing against poor people trying to earn a living. What I think is wrong, is people who come here, start to feel entitled, and start to make demands on the many taxpaying citizens of this nation. It’s wrong, it short changes the citizens, it creates ill-will, and truth be told, most other nations would never stand for it. We have nothing but traitors as leaders, or they would have done things like create a guest worker program, such as many western nations have.

People come to work, make money, and when their work visa is over, they can apply for another period, but they cannot simply drain the social services of the host nation. This way they can go home with money, dignity and live nicely in their home nations. But we have no leaders. They only use illegal aliens for political reasons, and they don’t care about the citizenry either. Not a good formula for a peacefull, friendly nation, with feelings of fellowship. Nope, divide and conquer is what the elite in the U.S. do to people.

Comment by: Obbop Posted: October 30, 2009, 8:10 pm

I wonder how aware of history are those proclaiming that Black slave “built the USA.”

Did those believing that even make it as far as high school history?

Too busy gang banging with the vatos while driving around the barrio in a car that can jump?

Those who have studied history laugh at those who use emotion-laden knee-jerk rhetoric as a defense in a written “fight.”

Comment by: Ramon Galvan Jr. Posted: November 4, 2009, 12:11 am

I am a citizen of the U.S. and do consider myself a chicano, which I do not consider a derogative term, but thats just me… I am consciously aware of what I consider crimes commited by the governing class here in the U.S., for example in Arizona I know there is a sherrif by the name of Arapaio who is actively engaged in the processes of publicly humiliating, as well as creating a state of terror in the area under his jurisdiction…now, some of you may know of him and other such people who are very hateful ( so consider yourselves accesories to these crimes against humanity), he as well as other hate groups such as the minutemen, only act in the interests of the dominant group to which they belong.. what I see is that the media which only serves the interests of the dominant group and their elected representatives ( because remember if we look back in U.S. history we see that this nation was founded for white, protestant, property owning men over a certain age) IS IN A CONTINUAL INFORMATION WAR against so-called illegal aliens, note that terms such as these are used to subordinate and de-humanize people, this does not concern me simply because I am of the same ethnicity, but because I know as well as you all know that such ignorance is not right, I do not condone violence on both sides of the matter nor do I support irrational actions by my people as well as any other people.. but I do feel that we have been treated unjustly by this system and the people it serves, historically mexican people have lived here since before the colonization of these lands by anglo invaders, our ancestors have been here since time immemorial, we were the anasazi people, we were the people of ancient mesoamerica and we still are, the fact that we speak spanish or practice the catholic religion is because of the spanish colonization, we are indiginous people to this land, chicano is like calling someone black, so before you all go and make judgements consider the facts, we are not spaniards, we look the way we do for a reason, we are the true inheritors of this land, self-determination for our peoples is not a crime.. foreign occupation is… it is not our fault if our government is bad nor it your fault if your government is too.. I believe we can live together because we have for so long, all the animosity between us is because of a lack of understanding, and fueled by the media and the people who should really be responsible to us not for us, only we can take control of our lives, dont be a pon in someone elses game, we all deserve justice and the right to live freely, the true enemy is not the average white or mex. person is the people at the top who maintain all of this insanity, who must create chaos in order to govern, we are the threat, and i do not think we should play the victims, lets move on-really, but let us consider each others differences and embrace them not hate them, we chicanos are not seperatists, we wish to live in peace and harmony with all of our relations.. think about it… I hope some mis- informed people read this, I am 19 and only want a better future for my children, assimilation and acculturation are genocide.

Comment by: San Diego County Citizen Posted: November 4, 2009, 5:14 pm

Those are not “counter-demonstrators”. They are Latin Marxists and followers of La Raza’s plan to conquer the USA via the demographic warfare which Mexico has been waging uncontested for the last 20+ years.

Comment by: Mexican Posted: November 10, 2009, 11:31 pm

To Obbop. Since you ask, I am college educated and my annual income is likely at least double what yours is. I suggest you open a history book. The fact is that anyone can prosper if they had no labor cost, such as african slaves or cheap labor such as mexicans. If you need your brake pads changed the pads are twenty dollars but the labor is two-hundred dollars. Think about it. It would have to be cold, heartless and brutal people that could sail to one country and kidnap African people and then bring them to another country that was stolen from the Indians and Mexicans and make them work there for free and sell their babies and wives off like animals. Every culture has their problems but “European Americans” are no different. Why is it that we are Mexican Americans or African Americans but Europeans (white people) are not European Americans. Europeans are not truly of America and it eats at them that Mexicans are here because we were here first. As far as your barrio comment, you should take a look at some of these dirty trailer parks.

Comment by: Charles Posted: November 12, 2009, 8:18 am

STOP THE HATRED. Please, stop the hatred.

Comment by: Charles Posted: November 12, 2009, 8:20 am

It’s difficult to believe that in this country, in this COUNTY, we still have hate groups. Please educate yourselves. Look inside yourselves for compassion. Killing and hatred is not the way…

Comment by: Carrie Posted: November 12, 2009, 9:42 pm

Another reason why the human race sucks. I want to go back home…bring me the mother ship!!!

Comment by: justyn Posted: November 16, 2009, 8:11 pm

i am 16 and i understand what is right and what is wrong with america. racism and greed because of government allowing hate groups to exercise thier first amendment it effects the other half of the populations practice.we were founded on principles that werent completely right but we have evolved as a race to a more understanding and advanced society and i know if i stand next to a white black asian hispanic or anyother man he is still a man no different because he is equal to me.

Comment by: Kyle Posted: November 22, 2009, 9:49 am

There will always be hate filled people in the world and there will always be war. There is nothing you can do to stop these neo nazis. They have the freedom to speech just as any other American.
They have the right to protest as well and the most un american thing you can try to do is take that away. Im only 18. but where i live we see the full effect of Illegal Aliens and it is a big problem. You dont see it in every town but the gangs where i live mostly are made of illegals which will turn people hate filled. Majority are on welfare here too. No matter what you do there will always be “hate groups” just the way it is and always will be. So all you people posting saying stop them. We cant. Then you wouldn’t be much better then they are because you are trying to take away their American rights. Its part of our country to do what they are doing. weither you like it or not you know its true. No i am not racist, white supremist or anything of the sort my self for the record.

Comment by: blyndmassiah Posted: November 30, 2009, 4:50 pm

well, the europeans that came to the U.S were immigrants themselves,this war against illegal immigration is not a aimed at all the different ethnicities, if you look at it from a distance you can see this is a form of ETHNIC CLEANSING aimed at the largest growing minority. LATINOS. since whites cant kill us, they will simply, throw us out our own lands. this is AMERICA, NORTH CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA. we are the true AMERICANS

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