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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-7195</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man who first organized homosexuals as a political minority, Harry Hay, was an advocate of pedophile rights and the notorious group NAMBLA.

NAMBLA is the North American Man/Boy Love Association, a group that advocates for the legalization of sex between men and boys, and an end to all "age of consent" laws.

Hay formed the first American homosexual activist group, the Mattachine Society, in 1950. He conceived of the idea of organizing homosexuals at a time when most were afraid to even be discovered as such. Hay was also a committed Communist who married to hide his homosexuality so that he could join the Party.

He went on to found The Radical Faeries, a shamanistic spirituality movement for homosexual men. "Gay pride" parades frequently include local contingents of "Faeries" — semi-naked men prancing and dancing in variations of Native American rituals. 

In the eighties and nineties, when homosexual activists began banning NAMBLA from "gay pride" parades to clean up their public image, he and other "gay" liberationists were outraged.

In 1994, Hay, then in his eighties, was among the signers of a "Spirit of Stonewall" proclamation that argued that efforts to ban NAMBLA from the New York "pride" parade violated the spirit of the original Stonewall "rebellion," which is revered by homosexual activists as the spark of the modern "gay rights" movement. (In 1969, homosexuals and others then regarded as deviants rioted in response to a police crackdown of the Stonewall Inn in New York City.)

The Spirit of Stonewall (SOS) declaration read in part:
Stonewall was the spontaneous action of marginal people oppressed by the mainstream — of teenaged drag queens, pederasts, transsexuals, hustlers, and others despised by respectable straights and "discreet" homosexuals.

NAMBLA's record as a responsible gay organization is well known. NAMBLA was spawned by the gay community and has been in every major gay and lesbian march. NAMBLA's call for the abolition of age of consent is not the issue. NAMBLA is a bona fide participant in the gay and lesbian movement. NAMBLA deserves strong support in its rights of free speech and association and its members' protection from discrimination and bashing.

More recently, Hay wrote an essay for the pederasty magazine GAYME, according to a "queer" magazine Web site. GAYME is a magazine for men who are sexually "into boys," according to one Web reviewer. It is produced by former NAMBLA Bulletin editor Bill Andriette.

A Nexis database search of Harry Hay obits in over 30 print news outlets — including The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Associated Press and Time Magazine — turned up no mention of his pro-NAMBLA advocacy.

But I guess you're right. The fact that Lombard was gay had nothing to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man who first organized homosexuals as a political minority, Harry Hay, was an advocate of pedophile rights and the notorious group NAMBLA.</p>
<p>NAMBLA is the North American Man/Boy Love Association, a group that advocates for the legalization of sex between men and boys, and an end to all &#8220;age of consent&#8221; laws.</p>
<p>Hay formed the first American homosexual activist group, the Mattachine Society, in 1950. He conceived of the idea of organizing homosexuals at a time when most were afraid to even be discovered as such. Hay was also a committed Communist who married to hide his homosexuality so that he could join the Party.</p>
<p>He went on to found The Radical Faeries, a shamanistic spirituality movement for homosexual men. &#8220;Gay pride&#8221; parades frequently include local contingents of &#8220;Faeries&#8221; — semi-naked men prancing and dancing in variations of Native American rituals. </p>
<p>In the eighties and nineties, when homosexual activists began banning NAMBLA from &#8220;gay pride&#8221; parades to clean up their public image, he and other &#8220;gay&#8221; liberationists were outraged.</p>
<p>In 1994, Hay, then in his eighties, was among the signers of a &#8220;Spirit of Stonewall&#8221; proclamation that argued that efforts to ban NAMBLA from the New York &#8220;pride&#8221; parade violated the spirit of the original Stonewall &#8220;rebellion,&#8221; which is revered by homosexual activists as the spark of the modern &#8220;gay rights&#8221; movement. (In 1969, homosexuals and others then regarded as deviants rioted in response to a police crackdown of the Stonewall Inn in New York City.)</p>
<p>The Spirit of Stonewall (SOS) declaration read in part:<br />
Stonewall was the spontaneous action of marginal people oppressed by the mainstream — of teenaged drag queens, pederasts, transsexuals, hustlers, and others despised by respectable straights and &#8220;discreet&#8221; homosexuals.</p>
<p>NAMBLA&#8217;s record as a responsible gay organization is well known. NAMBLA was spawned by the gay community and has been in every major gay and lesbian march. NAMBLA&#8217;s call for the abolition of age of consent is not the issue. NAMBLA is a bona fide participant in the gay and lesbian movement. NAMBLA deserves strong support in its rights of free speech and association and its members&#8217; protection from discrimination and bashing.</p>
<p>More recently, Hay wrote an essay for the pederasty magazine GAYME, according to a &#8220;queer&#8221; magazine Web site. GAYME is a magazine for men who are sexually &#8220;into boys,&#8221; according to one Web reviewer. It is produced by former NAMBLA Bulletin editor Bill Andriette.</p>
<p>A Nexis database search of Harry Hay obits in over 30 print news outlets — including The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Associated Press and Time Magazine — turned up no mention of his pro-NAMBLA advocacy.</p>
<p>But I guess you&#8217;re right. The fact that Lombard was gay had nothing to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: SunnyBun</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6907</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyBun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: From CA statement that heterosexuals molest their daughters in greater numbers.

I don't think that being gay has anything at all to do with this.  A pedophile is a pedophile- no matter what their sexual preference.  Two or three years ago we were reading in the newspapapers about a man who had adopted a five-year-old girl from Russia whom he proceeded to sexually abuse until she was rescued at the age of 11.  He also adopted the little girl with the sole motive of having a sexual slave who was powerless to protect herself; just like the child in the Duke University case.  I don't think many heterosexual or gay people would want to be categorized in the same class as these monsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: From CA statement that heterosexuals molest their daughters in greater numbers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that being gay has anything at all to do with this.  A pedophile is a pedophile- no matter what their sexual preference.  Two or three years ago we were reading in the newspapapers about a man who had adopted a five-year-old girl from Russia whom he proceeded to sexually abuse until she was rescued at the age of 11.  He also adopted the little girl with the sole motive of having a sexual slave who was powerless to protect herself; just like the child in the Duke University case.  I don&#8217;t think many heterosexual or gay people would want to be categorized in the same class as these monsters.</p>
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		<title>By: SunnyBun</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6904</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyBun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Another example of a former moderate university being taken over by ultra-liberals who have no boundaries or moral codes that would preclude this creep from being hired." (Quoted from a previous poster above)

My Response:
I know!  Sometimes I just hate being an ultra-liberal and not having any moral compass or code of ethics.  I mean, when I think of all the conservative, God-fearing men and women of the Moral Majority I could pattern myself after, I should just eat worms and die! Shouldn't we all strive to obtain the rigteousness of Jim Bakker, um, I mean, Bob Barr, oh no, Ken Calvert, oops, Helen Chenoweth, gulp, Newt Gingrich, holy smokes, Philip Giordano, crikey, Neal Horsley, WTH?, Rush Limbaugh, wait, Bob Packwood, undo that last one, Dr. Laura Sclhessinger, hold on, Jimmy Swaggart, give me a minute, Strom Thurmond, how embarrassing, Jim West? H-m-m-m-m-m-m. Let's just forget I brought this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another example of a former moderate university being taken over by ultra-liberals who have no boundaries or moral codes that would preclude this creep from being hired.&#8221; (Quoted from a previous poster above)</p>
<p>My Response:<br />
I know!  Sometimes I just hate being an ultra-liberal and not having any moral compass or code of ethics.  I mean, when I think of all the conservative, God-fearing men and women of the Moral Majority I could pattern myself after, I should just eat worms and die! Shouldn&#8217;t we all strive to obtain the rigteousness of Jim Bakker, um, I mean, Bob Barr, oh no, Ken Calvert, oops, Helen Chenoweth, gulp, Newt Gingrich, holy smokes, Philip Giordano, crikey, Neal Horsley, WTH?, Rush Limbaugh, wait, Bob Packwood, undo that last one, Dr. Laura Sclhessinger, hold on, Jimmy Swaggart, give me a minute, Strom Thurmond, how embarrassing, Jim West? H-m-m-m-m-m-m. Let&#8217;s just forget I brought this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivian</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6865</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outraged is the only person with an intelligent response.
Why is it that everytime something despicable happens as in this case, and it just so happens to be a gay man who allegedly commited this henious crime; it gets turned into a gay issue or an Obama issue?  What does one have to do with the other?
A friend's son was molested and murdered by a white man.  I know a woman who was molested by her brother- they were white and her brother is married to a woman, so again, what does one have to do with the other?  
I hope that precious little boy is now with someone who will love him and help him through the horrible reality that will one day hit him like a ton of bricks.  Poor baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outraged is the only person with an intelligent response.<br />
Why is it that everytime something despicable happens as in this case, and it just so happens to be a gay man who allegedly commited this henious crime; it gets turned into a gay issue or an Obama issue?  What does one have to do with the other?<br />
A friend&#8217;s son was molested and murdered by a white man.  I know a woman who was molested by her brother- they were white and her brother is married to a woman, so again, what does one have to do with the other?<br />
I hope that precious little boy is now with someone who will love him and help him through the horrible reality that will one day hit him like a ton of bricks.  Poor baby.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6782</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To CA:

The man adopted the child!  He adopted him!  Then molested him!  That's a predatory act!  Planned!  Don't you get it?  Don't go ‘relative’ and make comfortable comparisons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To CA:</p>
<p>The man adopted the child!  He adopted him!  Then molested him!  That&#8217;s a predatory act!  Planned!  Don&#8217;t you get it?  Don&#8217;t go ‘relative’ and make comfortable comparisons!</p>
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		<title>By: From CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>From CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with JP.  Castration and prison! However, a 20 year maximum is NOT long enough, considering that that little boy will suffer for the rest of his life.  A parent's duty is to protect one's children, not throw them into the lion's den.  It is utterly dispicable what he did!  I also believe that intent to commit a crime should be punished just as harshly as actually committing the crime.

And being gay has nothing to do with him molesting his child. There are plenty of heterosexual men who molest their daughters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with JP.  Castration and prison! However, a 20 year maximum is NOT long enough, considering that that little boy will suffer for the rest of his life.  A parent&#8217;s duty is to protect one&#8217;s children, not throw them into the lion&#8217;s den.  It is utterly dispicable what he did!  I also believe that intent to commit a crime should be punished just as harshly as actually committing the crime.</p>
<p>And being gay has nothing to do with him molesting his child. There are plenty of heterosexual men who molest their daughters.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6489</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Joe McKillan:

The Duke administration knew as much about the Lacrosse player's case as they know about this one. Looks like they've learned to keep their mouths shut.

And since when do ULTRA-conservatives support a gay Bishop? There are hypocrites right and left. It's just that the media's only interested when they're on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Joe McKillan:</p>
<p>The Duke administration knew as much about the Lacrosse player&#8217;s case as they know about this one. Looks like they&#8217;ve learned to keep their mouths shut.</p>
<p>And since when do ULTRA-conservatives support a gay Bishop? There are hypocrites right and left. It&#8217;s just that the media&#8217;s only interested when they&#8217;re on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom vs. Obama</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6461</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom vs. Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is odd that the author of the story never metions that he is a homosexual.  I learned that from reading: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/family/1319</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is odd that the author of the story never metions that he is a homosexual.  I learned that from reading: <a href="http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/family/1319" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/family/1319</a></p>
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		<title>By: faux_outrage</title>
		<link>http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-06-26/ap-stories/duke-official-charged-in-child-sex-case/comment-page-1#comment-6455</link>
		<dc:creator>faux_outrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Catholic church has raped or molested millions of children, while preaching celibacy."

Utter lies, moron.  Millions of children?  Are you high?  And is your whole family this stupid, or is it just you?

As for "Pro-life people murder and kill to stop abortion", by my rough scorekeeping it's some 30 or 40 million dead babies to, what, a number of so-called "doctors" you could count on one hand, minus a thumb?

Doctors could do a more beneficial function for mankind if, instead of killing infants, they'd devote their time to the dissection and study of the liberal brain, assuming it exists.  Then, perhaps, treatment or a cure could be instituted to prevent its recurrence and the subsequent decline in western morality, and the increase in incipient stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Catholic church has raped or molested millions of children, while preaching celibacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Utter lies, moron.  Millions of children?  Are you high?  And is your whole family this stupid, or is it just you?</p>
<p>As for &#8220;Pro-life people murder and kill to stop abortion&#8221;, by my rough scorekeeping it&#8217;s some 30 or 40 million dead babies to, what, a number of so-called &#8220;doctors&#8221; you could count on one hand, minus a thumb?</p>
<p>Doctors could do a more beneficial function for mankind if, instead of killing infants, they&#8217;d devote their time to the dissection and study of the liberal brain, assuming it exists.  Then, perhaps, treatment or a cure could be instituted to prevent its recurrence and the subsequent decline in western morality, and the increase in incipient stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene who?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene who?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"More children are molested, neglected and abused by their own biological parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers/sisters, cousins and even close family friends than children who are adopted. In any society you will find bad people, it is a fact. The fact that this man happened to be gay has no merit."

Actually it does have merit. You argue the problem already exists in the heterosexual (i.e., natural reproduction phase) world, hence the fact that some gays do this too is no big deal. 

So: if there is a fire in the kitchen, no big deal if we simultaneously burn down the bedroom? What possible benefit to society or children comes from taking any chances with homosexual adoption just so homosexuals can feel complete? Utterly ridiculous and tragic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More children are molested, neglected and abused by their own biological parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers/sisters, cousins and even close family friends than children who are adopted. In any society you will find bad people, it is a fact. The fact that this man happened to be gay has no merit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually it does have merit. You argue the problem already exists in the heterosexual (i.e., natural reproduction phase) world, hence the fact that some gays do this too is no big deal. </p>
<p>So: if there is a fire in the kitchen, no big deal if we simultaneously burn down the bedroom? What possible benefit to society or children comes from taking any chances with homosexual adoption just so homosexuals can feel complete? Utterly ridiculous and tragic.</p>
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