San Diegans angry over Children’s Pool seals issue

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San Diego: (Photo courtesy by San Diego 6 CW)

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LA JOLLA - Neither the pro-seal group or the pro-”children’s cove” are happy with the way city leaders have handled the battle over the Children’s Pool in La Jolla.

Joe Clary is a La Jolla Resident and would like to see the seals stay. He says, “It just seems rather incredulous that the city would be even considering this at this time.”

Andrew Bergeron, also a La Jolla resident, can’t understand why the city has offered such an expensive plan to chase away the seals who have made the cove their home. “It’s just so ridiculous that the city needs money and that they’re going to spend money on dispersing something that attracts tourists.”

The seal issue was the hot topic Thursday at a forum at the La Jolla Recreation Center on Prospect Street.

At a cost of nearly $700,000 the city wants to use a loudspeaker that emanates a barking dog sound and have police personnel on site to protect the person carrying the device.
Assistant Police Chief Boyd Long shared the police perspective. “The Police Department is committed to safety and will be there regardless of the outcome of this court hearing on the 15th. Our intent is to make sure everybody is peaceable and that everybody is safe during this event.”

The city councilmember for the district is Sherri Lightner. She began the meeting at the Rec Center by stating “this meeting is going to end at 7pm if not sooner so that we can get home to our families.”

Lightner then refused to answer any questions from the crowd or give any insight into her position.

Andrew Bergeron attended the meeting and said, “She seems to want to avoid the issue entirely.”

San Diego 6 News learned that may not be the case. Lightner’s office issued a statement that said the councilmember would like to turn the Children’s Cove into a Dog Beach. She is offering that as a solution to disperse the seals.

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SAN DIEGO - A plan to use barking dogs to chase off seals in La Jolla is raising some eyebrows.

From 6 a.m. until sundown, the city will start unleashing some recorded canines on the roughly 200 harbor seals that have taken over Children’s Pool beach in La Jolla in the hope the barking will run off the normally loved marine mammals.

But a judge will have to hash out certain issues surrounding the plan on Wednesday before city officials can commence with their sonic plan of attack.

“The idea is rather appalling,” Lelia Kelly, who lives in the Casa de Manana retirement community near the beach, said. “I think that would be a true interference to the peace and beauty at the Oceanside home where I live and would be an unnatural distraction. I don’t like the idea at all.”

Harbor seals, which must get out of the water at times to regulate their body heat, started taking over the beach in the late 1990s. By 1997, diving in the area was banned due to coliform bacteria linked to the seals.

The pupping season just ended May 15, giving city officials the go-ahead to begin their campaign. If the recorded dog barking is a nonstarter, the city would start spraying the seals with water to get them to clear out, the Union-Tribune reported.

The city has pegged the annual cost at $688,934.

“The dispersal of seals is almost certain to become a national media event, drawing to San Diego crowds of sightseers, news helicopters and animal rights advocates who may arrive by land or sea to protest the seal dispersal,” according to the city’s proposal.

Spraying water could work, Tina Fahy, a biologist with the National Marine Fisheries Service in Long Beach said. She was less certain about the dog noises.

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“If it’s constant barking sounds, they start to just adjust to it. I don’t think that is going to work,” she said. “These animals habituate very easily. . . . I see it as being more of an annoyance to humans in the area.”

About four years ago, a Superior Court judge ordered San Diego to reduce bacterial contamination at Children’s Pool so it could become a swimming area again — as it was designated by state law in 1931.

In February, the San Diego City Council asked the state Legislature to pass legislation allowing it to decide on whether the seals stay or go.

Sen. Christine Kehoe, D-San Diego, sponsored a bill that has passed the Senate and is awaiting final action in the Assembly.

“I think we have a pretty good shot at stalling this at least until the state law would go into effect,” Pease said. “It’s basically just a race against the clock.”

Jeff Powers reports for San Diego 6 CW where this story originally appeared.

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Comment by: Jason Riggs Posted: May 29, 2009, 11:08 am

What is wrong with Sherri Lightner? Why on earth would she be so adamant about ignoring her constiuents and wasting a bunch of taxpayer money fior something that very few of them actually support.

There’s somebody who needs a lesson in politics 101. Talk about crazy!

This is the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard.

Comment by: Erik Posted: May 29, 2009, 12:04 pm

Be fair. The court has ordered the City to open the cove up to people as that is the conditions on which Ms. Scipps placed the land into the public trust. The Feds have said that you can’t put humans and seals together because it would violate federal laws that protect ocean living mammals. So San Diego needs to somehow get rid of the seals BUT CAN’T simply let divers and beach goers harras the seals. I feel sorry for the councilwoman and the city, there are no good answers, just ones that don’t pass the giggle test.

Comment by: audrey robb Posted: May 30, 2009, 5:15 am

It seems to me the ones in danger are the seals from dirty humans!! Leave them alone. And why spend $700,000 on recordings of barking dogs? You can come here I live and get milli0ns of barking sdogs day and night - for nothing. They drive all of us nuts. Yet the Council won’t do anything about them.

Comment by: Peter Gantzel Posted: May 30, 2009, 9:19 am

Temporary use of Children’s Pool Beach by dogs to break the Seal Rookery that has developed is a brilliant idea from Sherri Lightner’s office. How this would fare under federal “harassment by humans prohibition” might complicate it a bit. All this might have been prevented if “polar bear” enthusiasts had kept regular visitations during that period when seals decided that nearby “Seal Rock” was not as comfortable for hauling out. The rope barrier game developed by the City effectively dedicated this area to the seals and their enormous growth in this area.

Comment by: water nut 2 Posted: May 30, 2009, 12:11 pm

It does not matter what anybody decides about the seals at the Children’s Pool, when my friends and I are done there will be no seals left. We have divers and watercraft and we are armed with underwater audio harassment devices and seal bombs. When we are through there will be no seals left in the area around the Children’s Pool. We also have an army of large dogs and we intend to bring them to the Children’s Pool beach before 9 AM and after 6 PM. When we are done there will be no seals left at the Children’s Pool.

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Comment by: LJdiver Posted: June 8, 2009, 8:20 pm

All you have to do is go FISHING! With a valid state fishing license and you are actively fishing you can deter the seals. If anyone tries to stop you use this:

Hunter/Fishing Harassment Law
California Fish and Game Code

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?s...

Section 2009. (a) A person shall not willfully interfere with the participation of any individual in the lawful activity of shooting, hunting, fishing, falconry, or trapping at the location where that activity is taking place.

(b) A violation of this section is an infraction punishable by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than five hundred dollars ($500).

(c) If any person is convicted of a violation of this section and the offense occurred within two years of another separate violation of this section which resulted in a conviction, the violation is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

(d) This section does not apply to the actions of any peace officer or personnel of the department in the performance of their official duties. This section does not obstruct the rights and normal activities of landowners or tenants, including, but not limited to, farming, ranching, and limiting unlawful trespass.

(e) In order to be liable for a violation of this section, the person is required to have had the specific intent to interfere with the participation of an individual who was engaged in shooting, hunting, fishing, falconry, or trapping.

(f) For purposes of this section, “interfere with” means any action which physically impedes, hinders, or obstructs the lawful pursuit of any of the above-mentioned activities, including, but not limited to, actions taken for the purpose of frightening away animals from the location where the lawful activity is taking place.

http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mammals/Seals-an...

Q. Who may deter sea lions or seals?
A. In summary, certain private citizens, marina owners, government officials, and commercial and recreational fisherman may deter sea lions and seals under certain conditions, as described below:
• Private Citizens – Only the owner of the private property (e.g., a dock or vessel) may deter Pacific harbor seals and California seal lions to prevent damage to their private property.
• Marina Owner – Only the marina owner, or an employee of the owner, or an agent of the owner may deter Pacific harbor seals and California seal lions to prevent damage to the marina.
• Government Officials – City, county, state or federal officials or their employees may deter listed and non-ESA-listed sea lions and seals determined to be “nuisance” animals to prevent damage to private or public property, or to protect the public from potential threats.

• Commercial and Recreational Fishermen – Fishermen can deter Pacific harbor seals and California seal lions from damaging gear or depredating catch, only if they are actively fishing.

Any Lifeguard or Law Enforcement Officer can enforce the Code.

Comment by: Ross Posted: June 17, 2009, 6:17 am

This is just another instance of humans injecting their emotions in an area that nature has been taking care of for an eternity. If these seals looked like rats, the “friends of the seals” would be first in line to get rid of them. However, the seals are “cute”. I’d be for letting the seals stay, as long as the populations of makos and great whites were returned. Where are the friends of the sharks? Humans eat far more sharks than sharks eat humans. We have destroyed the balance nature intended. There are TOO many seals and sea lions, and too few of their predators. Eventually that overpopulation will destroy them. Thin the herds of seals and sea lions, and it will benefit both them and the humans.

Comment by: mojave Posted: December 22, 2009, 4:02 pm

I just don’t get it. I have a place down the road from there and can tell you there is plenty of beach space north and south of that tiny cove, so why not let the seals have that one little space? How selfish can we be?

Comment by: billy Posted: January 19, 2010, 3:12 pm

some people say that people should be kicked off the beach. well i think different. i think the children’s beach should be home to the seals because the seals deserve a place to call home so they don’t have to swim all day every day with no place to go. the only other place in California is all the way up the coastline!

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